By Peter Landau
Comedian
Paul Provenza and magician
Penn Jillette decided one fateful day to document the story of show business's filthiest joke, the Aristocrats.
The Aristocrats is the name of their movie, with over a hundred comics riffing in the most foul way. It's also the punch line to that infamous heehaw, but that won't ruin the telling, because with the Aristocrats joke getting there is more fun than the actual destination.
The set-up is simple: A guy walks into a talent agent's office and says he's got a great family act for him. He then goes on to describe the most heinous and obscene act of degradation imaginable. And that's the fun part, listening to funnymen from
Robin Williams to
Chris Rock try to out gross-out one another in setting up the punch line. What's the name of the act: The Aristocrats! Rim shot, or maybe rim job would be more appropriate in this context.
The Aristocrats is directed by Provenza, who, with Jillette, took his digital camera and casually recorded his famous and funny friends ruminating on ribald humor. Provenza knows a thing or two about knee slapping. He's been a regular on
The Tonight Show and
Late Show with David Letterman, had his own sitcom called
Pursuit of Happiness, appeared on
Empty Nest, and played
Lisa Whelchel's boyfriend on
The Facts of Life. Now that is funny.
Most recently Provenza has been promoting
The Aristocrats, which caught
Mr. Skin's attention when it was released unrated. While there's no nudity in the film, Provenza was happy to discuss his own forays into the world of cinematic skin, how
Anne Bancroft ruined him as a young boy, his young introduction to the carnal carnival of Times Square, and an impassioned defense for the return of that hedonistic Eden from the Mickey Mouse stranglehold of Disney.
Why make a documentary about the world's dirtiest joke?
You know what, I fell back in love with comedy right about the time we started
The Aristocrats. The opportunity to work with Penn. We had this nutty idea and no idea how it would work out. It just spoke so loudly to me.
Are you proud that your movie is unrated even though there is no nudity in it whatsoever?
There is a little bit of pixilated nudity. I hope Mr. Skin puts that up. Kelly, the girl who that is, would be so thrilled. I'm proud of everything about this movie, all the crazy, nutty, hilarious things they say. And the fact there is no nudity in the movie.
In telling the Aristocrats joke, each comic perhaps unconsciously exposes a bit of themselves. When you tell the joke is it more scatological or sexual?
I go for the more sexual. The scat thing, even for me, is a little too puerile. It's just the icing on the cake [laughs]. There are certain versions of the joke where people have permutations that you need a protractor to figure out, and that gets me hot.
Here're some Mr. Skin questions. First, do you recall the first nudity you saw onscreen as a kid growing up?
You know, I don't remember the first, but I can tell you the most profound:
The Graduate. The movie theater in my neighborhood played Saturday matinees and I found I could hide behind the curtain and sneak into the adult films that they showed afterwards. That's how I got into
The Graduate. I had never seen anything like it at the time. It was a nude scene (Picture:
1) that had a clandestine feel to it because I sneaked in, which made it way the fuck better.
Is Anne Bancroft your number-one sex symbol or do you have others?
I have a rather eclectic collection.
Franka Potente from
Run Lola Run--she is hot, I love her--
Maggie Gyllenhaal from
Secretary (Picture:
1 - 2 - 3), and
Jessica Lange.
How about B-movie queens from more exploitative fare?
When it's too obvious it's no longer a turn-on for me. I like the ones that I might actually have a chance with. And I got to tell you,
Johnny Depp, without a doubt, is the sexiest actor that ever set foot in front of a camera, ever! And
Gael Garc?Bernal.
Maybe we can launch a Mrs. Skin for your eclectic tastes. You're a classically trained actor?
Yes, I am. The Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts is very proud of me right now.
But do you have a soft spot in your heart for exploitation fare?
Oh, I love it, especially the
Russ Meyer films. Interestingly enough, when I was like fourteen or fifteen I used to go down to the Improv, before I started doing comedy, just to go and watch comedy all the time. So I spent a lot of time in Times Square and saw all that stuff back then and loved it.
Here's my theory about Disney in Times Square. There's got to be a place for that kind of thing, what the Deuce used to be. There's got to be a sexual playground. There just has to be. And until they put glory holes in
Pirates of the Caribbean, I don't think [Disney] belongs in Times Square. That's where people go for handjobs; they don't want it done with three fingers! Disney doesn't belong there. You understand what I'm saying? There's a lot of Disney everywhere. Why can't we have a little bit of Amsterdam in New York?
That whole thing about the percentage of adult content and other content that's not pornographic makes me insane. I actually went into one of those businesses and I pointed to a copy of
Troop Beverly Hills and I shouted, "How can you carry this filth! Have you no dignity or shame? What's wrong with you people?"
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